tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post4147692101583241105..comments2023-11-03T05:50:18.057-04:00Comments on Libertas and Latte: Waving the bloody shirtConstitutional Insurgenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03251746798758539951noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-84847510115200354762015-06-26T17:53:02.965-04:002015-06-26T17:53:02.965-04:00Wow. The above comment was yet another devoid of a...Wow. The above comment was yet another devoid of any content.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-52397910284685562862015-06-24T00:58:39.102-04:002015-06-24T00:58:39.102-04:00Do you really "know"?
Know: verb (used ...Do you really "know"?<br /><br /><i>Know: verb (used with object), knew, known, knowing.<br />1. to perceive or understand as fact or truth; to apprehend clearly and with certainty.</i><br /><br />dmarks does (incorrectly) perceive as fact or truth (even though it is not)... And he is certain (concerning the load of BS he just spun)... But does he apprehend clearly? Obviously he does not.<br />Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-89398465201998603412015-06-24T00:50:15.457-04:002015-06-24T00:50:15.457-04:00A "good rundown" is a summary in which m...A "good rundown" is a summary in which most of the facts are wrong?<br /><br />From <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/news/a-primer-on-the-fast-and-furious-scandal/" rel="nofollow">A primer on the "Fast and Furious" scandal</a> (CBS News article) "Wide Receiver" is the name ATF assigned to a group of gun trafficking cases investigated out of the Tucson, Arizona office beginning in 2006. Like Fast and Furious, it was supervised by ATF Special Agent in Charge Bill Newell. Sources indicate it involved about 275 "walked" guns. According to sources who worked directly on the case, the vast majority of guns were not tracked and Mexico's government was not fully informed of the case. Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-50869917800891442015-06-23T06:19:16.600-04:002015-06-23T06:19:16.600-04:00Good rundown Will.Good rundown Will.Constitutional Insurgenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251746798758539951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-70836675064595242962015-06-22T20:01:55.815-04:002015-06-22T20:01:55.815-04:00Yes, Will. We know this. The Obama program had not...Yes, Will. We know this. The Obama program had nothing to do with the Bush program, really. <br /><br />"Fast and Furious" kind of makes ObamaCo total hypocrites on gun control. They go out of their way to arm dangerous criminals.<br /><br />Before they ever go after a law-abiding citizen, why don't they imprison first anyone involved with Fast and Furious, no matter how far up the line the investigation goes?dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-54036167973136544512015-06-22T19:54:29.703-04:002015-06-22T19:54:29.703-04:00a) Operation Wide Receiver (the Bush initiative) w...a) Operation Wide Receiver (the Bush initiative) wasn't even a quarter the size of Fast and Furious. b) Operation Wide Receiver wasn't even a gun-walking policy (a policy that had NEVER once been utilized prior to Obama). It was a controlled delivery policy (a plan in which the ATF attempted to keep track of each and every weapon) in which a lot of the guns had radio tracking devices and in which few of them ever made it all the way to Mexico. c) Operation Wide Receiver was conducted with the full knowledge and cooperation of the Mexican government. Operation Fast and Furious, not so much. d) Operation Wide Receiver was shut down the very first instant that any of the guns fell off the grid. Operation Fast and Furious was only shut down when two of the guns showed up at the murder scene of Brian Terry. And e) the body count. Far more Mexican citizens have been annihilated by Fast and Furious (between 200 and 300 it is estimated).Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-73494539825617649012015-06-19T10:34:06.194-04:002015-06-19T10:34:06.194-04:00"Largely irrelevant, as the issue here [as I ..."Largely irrelevant, as the issue here [as I cited] is crime."<br /><br />CI, I hope people don't want shooting and killing any monster that breaks into a house to harm people to be called a "crime".dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-74868333361366848382015-06-19T10:20:25.202-04:002015-06-19T10:20:25.202-04:00CI said: "I won't accuse anyone as "...CI said: "I won't accuse anyone as "acting with glee"<br /><br />That's a much better way to say it.<br /><br />As for the terrible gun-running scheme to Mexican drug lords, it was all Obama's decision, started 9 months into his administration. People died as a result. Which is quite obvious: when you supply guns to killer criminals, that might happen. dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-43460697480064123732015-06-19T10:15:58.434-04:002015-06-19T10:15:58.434-04:00It is indeed disgusting when politicians use incid...It is indeed disgusting when politicians use incidents like this to push for their extreme agenda. One which makes the country more dangerous: as it disarms and harasses people who have never done anything wrong, while letting criminals run about well-armed.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-47993583762808963112015-06-19T10:11:13.957-04:002015-06-19T10:11:13.957-04:00I won't accuse anyone as "acting with gle...I won't accuse anyone as "acting with glee" because that presupposes that I can see into their heart......but many will certainly not hesitate to let a tragedy go unexploited in pursuit of their agenda.Constitutional Insurgenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251746798758539951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-39016721907289296732015-06-19T10:09:39.742-04:002015-06-19T10:09:39.742-04:00Not ad hominem, just a statement of fact.
If you ...<i>Not ad hominem, just a statement of fact.</i><br /><br />If you have to 'wager' it's likely not fact.<br /><br />Whereas, when you employ <i>"pro-gun-murder side"</i>, you <i>are</i> engaging in <i>ad hominem</i>.<br />Constitutional Insurgenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251746798758539951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-77739802740022709462015-06-19T10:00:03.892-04:002015-06-19T10:00:03.892-04:00The ATF's plan to track the guns to Mexican dr...The ATF's plan to track the guns to Mexican drug cartel leaders and arrest them began under the bush administration. What you refer to - a presidential administration arming Mexican drug lords so they could kill Americans - is an out-there crazy conspiracy theory. What you describe never happened. People believing this conspiracy theory are considered mentally ill by a lot of people, I'd wager. Not ad hominem, just a statement of fact.<br /><br />The agenda you refer to as one of "confiscation and harassment of people who never did anything wrong" is actually an agenda to save lives... Which makes your reference to "politicians act with apparent glee when incidents like this happen" particularly disgusting. You suggest there is glee due to a gun murder spree prompting action, but the gun massacring continues and NEVER prompts action that the pro-gun-murder side is not able to kill. Failure over and over brings sadness, not glee.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-51553887426372216542015-06-19T07:08:34.172-04:002015-06-19T07:08:34.172-04:00I welcome Mr. Sanders' new found opposition to...I welcome Mr. Sanders' new found opposition to "ad hominem". I will assume he is serious about this, and we will never hear careless playground insults, all ad hominem, like "gun nut",, "utterly moronic", "Unbelievable stupidity" which he used recently.<br /><br />The change will be refreshingdmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-64305987915249726692015-06-19T07:05:42.935-04:002015-06-19T07:05:42.935-04:00"He never was able to do anything about the g..."He never was able to do anything about the gun problem."<br /><br />That's because he went after the rights of innocent law abiding gun owners. And his administration actually contributed to the problem when it had a crazy scheme to arm Mexican drug lords so they could kill Americans. <br /><br />"They're (guns) a ubiquitous part of Americana, and it's a shame."<br /><br />This isn't a problem, Jersey. Like the rest of the Bill of Rights, it's what makes this country. great. What's a shame is that some very wrongheaded politicians act with apparently glee when incidents like this happen and try to use them to push their agenda of confiscation, and harassment of people who never did anything wrong.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-75432205330852904142015-06-19T06:09:53.082-04:002015-06-19T06:09:53.082-04:00It's not convenient...it's reality. Unless...It's not convenient...it's reality. Unless you're proffering some sort of thought policing.<br /><br /><i>....shooting someone in self defense during a home invasion qualifies as a violent act.</i><br /><br />Largely irrelevant, as the issue here [as I cited] is crime.Constitutional Insurgenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251746798758539951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-60898225812277633042015-06-19T06:07:40.390-04:002015-06-19T06:07:40.390-04:00I get that, and I understand the sentiment. But it...I get that, and I understand the sentiment. But it's also disingenuous to state on one hand, that this is a time for mourning and healing.....while in the same speech, decry one's loss at inside-the-beltway political gamesmanship.Constitutional Insurgenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251746798758539951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-88961300286880181672015-06-19T02:32:16.787-04:002015-06-19T02:32:16.787-04:00I understand where Obama was coming from there. He...I understand where Obama was coming from there. He's just frustrated. He never was able to do anything about the gun problem. Then came the Heller decision. This last year and a half is a wash. It's a mess and no one has any plan to do anything about it. And crazies and crooks and confused teenagers and cultists and terrorists and fanatics and children and you name 'em will get their hands on guns and shoot people. They're (guns) a ubiquitous part of Americana, and it's a shame.<br /><br />JMJJersey McJoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15426560061830038806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-39258724310917959232015-06-19T02:23:45.272-04:002015-06-19T02:23:45.272-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jersey McJoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15426560061830038806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-52721302388626897092015-06-18T23:03:16.254-04:002015-06-18T23:03:16.254-04:00Because my opinion not agreeing with the opinion o...Because my opinion not agreeing with the opinion of dmarks creates a "digital sinkhole"? And I don't know what narcissism has to do with me disagreeing with you. It only points to your reliance on ad hominem.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-58447356309409058802015-06-18T21:44:05.721-04:002015-06-18T21:44:05.721-04:00"You thinking you pointed out a "falseho..."You thinking you pointed out a "falsehood" does not make my opinion not my opinion."<br /><br />If agreeing prevents this post from turning into one of your narcissistic digital sink-holes, so be it.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-56920739788967515782015-06-18T21:05:26.917-04:002015-06-18T21:05:26.917-04:00You seem to forget that one who commits a violent ...<i>You seem to forget that one who commits a violent crime immediately repudiates ones 2nd Amendment rights.</i><br /><br />It is pretty convienent for your side that you defend the rights of killers right up to the millisecond before they kill. It isn't that I "forgot" this argument... I simply do not agree with it.<br /><br />BTW, shooting someone in self defense during a home invasion qualifies as a violent act. Being justified (if it is) does not make it not violent.<br /><br /><i>Yet, it is not honest. I have pointed out just one of the falsehoods in it.</i><br /><br />Obviously you don't know what the term "honest opinion" means. I said what I honesty believe. You thinking you pointed out a "falsehood" does not make my opinion not my opinion.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-29375743756901907552015-06-18T20:08:23.565-04:002015-06-18T20:08:23.565-04:00Those who use guns to commit hate hate crimes by m...<i>Those who use guns to commit hate hate crimes by mass murdering African American church goers don't qualify as "innocent people"!</i><br /><br />You're inventing an argument that nobody has made.<br /><br /><i>Defending the rights of killers, as dmarks does in his comment above,</i><br /><br />If he had, you would have been able to cite such. You seem to forget that one who commits a violent crime immediately repudiates ones 2nd Amendment rights. You're inventing arguments.Constitutional Insurgenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251746798758539951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-60472053379922715022015-06-18T19:20:21.588-04:002015-06-18T19:20:21.588-04:00"Defending the rights of killers, as dmarks d..."Defending the rights of killers, as dmarks does in his comment above,"<br /><br />I have done absolutely nothing of the sort. Mr Sanders, you are engaging in the sort of behavior that C.I. has just recently prohibited you from doing.<br /><br />" "Gun nut" is a very appropriate term for such a person, IMO."<br /><br />Insisting that baseless insults are proper does not help the situation at all.<br /><br />" I am simply sharing my honest opinion"<br /><br />Yet, it is not honest. I have pointed out just one of the falsehoods in it.<br /><br /><br />dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-79353151080717763332015-06-18T19:01:09.056-04:002015-06-18T19:01:09.056-04:00I am not sure if this qualifies as a "tirade&...I am not sure if this qualifies as a "tirade". I am simply sharing my honest opinion. Although dmarks would prefer I lied and voiced support for something I do not support... His request for lies is "friendly".Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-16043690783286940882015-06-18T18:55:55.966-04:002015-06-18T18:55:55.966-04:00Those who use guns to commit hate hate crimes by m...Those who use guns to commit hate hate crimes by mass murdering African American church goers don't qualify as "innocent people"! Sure, there hasn't been a trial yet, but I think we got the guy who did it... And I think it is almost certain he will be convicted. Defending the rights of killers, as dmarks does in his comment above, is what will make the country a more dangerous place! The president is outraged at the loss of life, as am I. Yet dmarks reserves his outrage for the possible violation of the rights of murderers? It boggles the mind. "Gun nut" is a very appropriate term for such a person, IMO.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.com