tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post7574125909233197348..comments2023-11-03T05:50:18.057-04:00Comments on Libertas and Latte: Piers Morgan is still a dumbassConstitutional Insurgenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03251746798758539951noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-80544992287281419122015-06-24T10:15:56.991-04:002015-06-24T10:15:56.991-04:00CI: there is a lot I don't know on the subject...CI: there is a lot I don't know on the subject. But I am willing to learn from those who are experts and/or speak from a base of knowledge. There is nothing to be gained, in contrast, by dipping an ear toward those who see ignorance as a strength, revel in paranoia, and see getting into deeply important specifics as "pettifogging".<br /><br />Thanks for the times when you set readers of this blog straight on matters we are incorrect on. Not all of us stick our fingers in our ears and whine.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-57650060485776730702015-06-24T06:13:08.510-04:002015-06-24T06:13:08.510-04:00Dervish: And yet...you're wrong. Show the inco...Dervish: And yet...you're wrong. Show the inconsistency in the laws that are necessary to define a 'gun show loophole'.<br /><br />dmarks: A fundamental ignorance of how firearms work....as well the original meaning of the 2nd Amendment....are the currency of the gun control camp. Well, that and pejoratives and projection.Constitutional Insurgenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251746798758539951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-32651116367920729642015-06-24T00:38:54.769-04:002015-06-24T00:38:54.769-04:00The question isn't "difficult", it&#...The question isn't "difficult", it's irrelative. Jersey (or I) can see the news reports concerning little kids getting slaughtered and form an opinion on it. A person does not need to fire a gun to know they kill.<br /><br />CI: There is no loophole. ... Private sellers are not required to do so at a gunshow...<br /><br />Translation: there is no loophole... No, wait, there is one.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-2789954981676291282015-06-22T11:41:40.325-04:002015-06-22T11:41:40.325-04:00CI, I think this might be the time that Jersey bow...CI, I think this might be the time that Jersey bows out. Difficult question here. He can't bear to say that his firearm experience came solely from watching "Mannix"dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-30573474933974062015-06-22T10:05:28.403-04:002015-06-22T10:05:28.403-04:00Ah well, thanks for the explanation. Me? I want gu...Ah well, thanks for the explanation. Me? I want gun ownership to increase, anyway. And regardless, I don't want anyone to "immediately and severely damage the Constitution in order to solve a supposed problem".dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-35824132509460092222015-06-22T09:41:09.975-04:002015-06-22T09:41:09.975-04:00My answers are, in order: more than I want to coun...My answers are, in order: more than I <i>want</i> to count, and more than I <i>can</i> count.Constitutional Insurgenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251746798758539951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-57475170589298752322015-06-22T09:39:53.558-04:002015-06-22T09:39:53.558-04:00The problem with this particular study, is that it...The problem with this particular study, is that it was conducted in the Chicago area. Hardly a representative sample of gun ownership in America.<br /><br /><i>The General Social Survey is administered by NORC at the University of Chicago, primarily using in-person interviewing. The GSS started in 1972 and completed its 30th round in 2014. The typical sample size was 1,500 prior to 1994, but increased to 2,700-3,000 until 2008, and decreased to 2,000 for the most recent surveys.</i><br /><br />There are no shortage of competing studies that are at odds with this one.Constitutional Insurgenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251746798758539951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-14555105597164689312015-06-22T08:58:27.098-04:002015-06-22T08:58:27.098-04:00And by the way, Jersey, if the problem is gun owne...And by the way, Jersey, if the problem is gun ownership, check out <a href="http://www.newsweek.com/us-gun-ownership-declines-312822" rel="nofollow">this news</a><br /><br />It's going down. On its own. Are you really such a <i>radical</i> that you want to immediately and severely damage the Constitution in order to solve a supposed problem? Why not just wait and watch this trend....dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-61941134368204761252015-06-22T07:41:10.306-04:002015-06-22T07:41:10.306-04:00Jersey: How many gun fights have you been in? How ...Jersey: How many gun fights have you been in? How many have you witnessed, live? How many times have you fired a gun in any circumstance, including practice?<br /><br />CI: The same three questions. How many gun fights have you been in? How many have you witnessed, live? How many times have you fired a gun in any circumstance, including practice?<br />---------------<br /><br />I will await the answers from both of you. This will tell me who is the expert on the usage of firearms, and who gets all their information from "Hollywood or something".dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-66743313685480781892015-06-22T07:33:37.803-04:002015-06-22T07:33:37.803-04:00Speaking of growing up, Jersey....cease the name c...Speaking of growing up, Jersey....cease the name calling and act like an adult, or your posts ill be deleted.<br /><br />I do however love your 'in-depth expertise' on both carrying and utilizing a firearm.<br /><br />/sarcConstitutional Insurgenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251746798758539951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-6122856265191352242015-06-22T07:08:52.379-04:002015-06-22T07:08:52.379-04:00Temper, temper. The "idiot" stuff vioat...Temper, temper. The "idiot" stuff vioates the blog rules, Jersey. <br /><br />Anyway, if you had your way, criminals would be the ones who fired first and won, always. Because the victims wouldn't be armed.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-83258685472101921872015-06-22T00:21:08.274-04:002015-06-22T00:21:08.274-04:00You idiot. Have you ever actually seen someone sh...You idiot. Have you ever actually seen someone shoot someone? I've got news for you, guy, it's over in a moment and whoever fires first almost always wins. You must think it's like Hollywood or something. Walking around with a gun, especially if it's visible, only makes you a more important target, and if it's concealed, it still does you no good to draw your gun with a bullet in your head. Get real. Grow up!<br /><br />JMJJersey McJoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15426560061830038806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-90132661954297850912015-06-21T19:54:29.822-04:002015-06-21T19:54:29.822-04:00....and if you dare to deal with specifics, you ge.......and if you dare to deal with specifics, you get accused of "pettifogging"<br /><br />Which means that to some, only a vague and slap-dash approach is valued. Which is an awful way to deal with matters of law, isn't it?dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-11782397391772748052015-06-21T16:45:19.582-04:002015-06-21T16:45:19.582-04:00That's what we get from that camp Attempted en...That's what we get from that camp Attempted end runs around Constitutional and civil liberties, and vague, undefined, and false blanket assertions about what we allegedly 'want' or 'don't want'.....based not on our words or actions, but on the script they follow.Constitutional Insurgenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251746798758539951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-76946815079861205032015-06-21T13:27:05.816-04:002015-06-21T13:27:05.816-04:00CI said: "False. The accountability I want is...CI said: "False. The accountability I want is the consequences for violations of the law."<br /><br />I know what you mean, CI. Jersey, on the other hand, has repeatedly called for "accountability" for those who have absolutely nothing to do with these crimes, and aren't responsible, or culpable, or guilty, or to blame, in any way.<br /><br />It's actually "un-American" in my view, CI. Not "un-American" in a McCarthyite way, but "un-American" in that it goes against our Constitution and the way it handles crime and blame.<br /><br />If anything, Jersey's demands might be a tip toward McCarthyism, or what passes for "justice" in Red China. Where guilt for a crime/etc often has absolutely no connection as to whether or not the person is to blame.<br />dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-59601854892595426732015-06-21T13:22:26.556-04:002015-06-21T13:22:26.556-04:00"Jon Stewart's point is that we only call..."Jon Stewart's point is that we only call attacks like this terrorism if the killer/killers is/are Muslim"<br /><br />Jon Stewart, like Limbaugh, lies and preaches to his hardline ideologue choir. He forgets that Tim McVeigh and countless others are called terrorists too. He forgets the decades-long war in which the IRA (non-Muslim) was always called, and is remembered as, terrorist. <br /><br />Stewart was very quick to try to politicize this incident in a very dumb way. No doubt Limbaugh jumped to it too. I wonder which one of these twin sons of different mothers did it first?dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-85717183643695235562015-06-21T11:53:29.337-04:002015-06-21T11:53:29.337-04:00"There's not a lot of guys who could take..."There's not a lot of guys who could take me down with a knife, dmarks. But anyone could take me down with a gun."<br /><br />Thanks, Jersey. A great argument for firearms for self-defense. Having a gun evens the odds for a woman of slight frame who is attacked by some big thug with a knife. Just one such example...<br /><br />The Great Equalizer...dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-46280130278512372602015-06-21T11:45:06.236-04:002015-06-21T11:45:06.236-04:00No "pettifogging" happened, Jersey: You ...No "pettifogging" happened, Jersey: You made some very specific claims that were at the center of your argument. Not "petty details". These were shown to be entirely incorrect.dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-37284885632057916682015-06-21T10:10:41.285-04:002015-06-21T10:10:41.285-04:00False. The accountability I want is the consequenc...False. The accountability I want is the consequences for violations of the law. <br /><br />But its good to see consistency from you. I'd be shocked if you were ever able to proffer a mature, cogent response. Instead, verbal tantrums are your currency. You do your side no justice.Constitutional Insurgenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251746798758539951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-62582583941738186222015-06-21T09:58:50.812-04:002015-06-21T09:58:50.812-04:00You have to stoop to pettifogging to make your arg...You have to stoop to pettifogging to make your arguments. Pathetic. You want no accountability for guns because you are like little spoiled children, not responsible adults.<br /><br />JMJJersey McJoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15426560061830038806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-65974489912200245182015-06-21T07:59:39.999-04:002015-06-21T07:59:39.999-04:00...and I pointed out that the kid getting that gun...<i>...and I pointed out that the kid getting that gun was plainly a display of a reprehensibly irresponsible gun transaction that is legal because that's the way you gun guys want things.</i><br /><br />No. You reiterated initial reporting which turned out to be likely wrong. But it <i>is</i> entertaining that you admit, you would see private transactions between two consenting citizens licensed and taxed.Constitutional Insurgenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251746798758539951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-51500659273847949502015-06-21T07:57:09.612-04:002015-06-21T07:57:09.612-04:00Not sure. Does anyone care enough about him to kno...Not sure. Does anyone care enough about him to know for sure?Constitutional Insurgenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03251746798758539951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-38874857827982245142015-06-21T05:41:16.831-04:002015-06-21T05:41:16.831-04:00Yet that wasn't what you said earlier, Jersey....Yet that wasn't what you said earlier, Jersey.<br /><br />And now we have the "kid getting that gun" which would have still happened had we passed the gun control laws which have been recommended by you and others in these discussions. dmarkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07269773990064736457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-84187035906370960942015-06-21T02:27:45.137-04:002015-06-21T02:27:45.137-04:00Is he (Morgan) still unemployed as well?Is he (Morgan) still unemployed as well?Will "take no prisoners" Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02315659209094683602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8860387354345137184.post-22296234723604146752015-06-21T02:01:55.503-04:002015-06-21T02:01:55.503-04:00There's not a lot of guys who could take me do...There's not a lot of guys who could take me down with a knife, dmarks. But anyone could take me down with a gun.<br /><br />JMJJersey McJoneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15426560061830038806noreply@blogger.com